AC Multiclass Abarth500/Mazda MX5#Silver City Raceway, Wed 19th April 2023

HF2000 · Apr 13, 2023

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Welcome to the RD Racing Club.

Some of you who have participated in last weeks race with the Radical car requested me use the same track (Silver City Raceway) for the multiclass. So here it is!

This track was chosen by supporters of the modder in a poll out of three different early versions of fictional circuits. The winner of this poll was then taken to completion and has become a fully-fledged finished racetrack. One of the voters came up with the brilliant idea to make this track a historic circuit as the flow and characteristics that suit that sort of vibe. Say goodbye to safety barriers and hello to fence posts and hay bales! The Silver City 66 track is set in the 'Boston Hill Open Space' area of Silver City, New Mexico.

SITUATIONAL AWARENESS is essential for clean and respectful driving in our community. You should therefore use tools like Helicorsa or CarRadar and CrewChief. The links for these apps are on the bottom of this post.

DISCORD. It's important that you also join us during the event on Discord for additional information and instructions. Link is below.

Sign up:
Go to https://acsm.racedepartment.com/championship/dfca355d-15d6-4adf-a6ad-80ebc5d4af66?server=1 using the Emperor account you have been given and register with your steamID.

If you don't have an Emperor account yet, ask for one by posting in this thread (only for premium members).

Especially the new and inexperienced drivers are recommended to participate. There are a lot of learning opportunities but without the intensity and stress of the GT3/4 cars or the endurance multiclass cars. It's also good step up for those kind of events.

Server information:

Server: Racedepartment Server 2 Password: standard password, if you don't know that, ask for it in this thread and it will be send in a PM.
20:00 CET, 19:00 BST (18:00 UTC) | 60 minutes - Official Practice
21:05 CET, 20:05 BST (19:05 UTC) | 20 minutes - Qualification
21:30 CET, 20:30 BST (19:30 UTC) | 60 minutes - Race
Practiceserver available during the week. Same password.

Event details:

Cars: Abarth 500 Assetto Corse/Mazda MX5 Cup
- F1 skins for MX5 (optional) https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/skinpack-mazda-mx5-cup-f1-2023-teams-drivers.56935/
- Country skins for Abarth (optional)https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/abarth_world_series_2k.10401/
- RaceDepartment skin (optional) https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/abarth-500-assetto-corse-race-department-skin-00.13916/
Track: Silver City Raceway (fictional), USA https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/silver-city-1966.59523/
Pit stop: Mandatory (at least 1 liter of fuel)
Tyre blankets: Yes
Track Road temperature: 30 Celsius
Track grip: 100%
Track limits: No more than 2 wheels over the white/yellow line without a lift of the gas please. You will be penalized if you break this rule.
Damage: 10%
Fuel Consumption: 40%
Tyre wear: 10%

Useful Links:

RaceDepartment Discord: click here
Sync Accounts: click here
Recommended apps: Helicorsa + CarRadar+ Top/Centre Flags or AC_Flags + CrewChief
Tracks, Cars, Apps Installation Guide: click here (Handy guide to install non AC content)
Racing Club Rules: click here
Incident Reporting: click here

Entry list:

https://acsm.racedepartment.com/championship/dfca355d-15d6-4adf-a6ad-80ebc5d4af66?server=1 Tab Entrants

rippin.rex · Apr 13, 2023

Password please?

HF2000 · Apr 13, 2023

rippin.rex said:
Password please?

The same as for my other events for as long as it doesn't get know by non premium members.

rippin.rex · Apr 14, 2023

HF2000 said:
The same as for my other events for as long as it doesn't get know by non premium members.

What is the password???

RS242 · Apr 15, 2023

For those that requested this track for our series: BIG THANK YOU!

Great track, I had so much fun in the few laps I've turned in.
A bit of everything and very well integrated, goes for quite a smooth ride.
Really looking forward to Wednesday!

See you on track!

RS242 · Apr 15, 2023

Story time:

In the last weeks I've putting in some driving in DiRT Rally 2.0 and one of the things that felt quite different when comparing to Assetto Corsa was the info I was gaining through force feedback. I was able to get a much better feeling of both the pavement and the car handling.
Not only that I was actually able to control RWD cars, which has always been problematic for me.

So this afternoon I've decided to have a look into the AC Force Feedback settings and lo and behold it was a mess! It was too strong, so it was filtering out a ton of things, and worst of all the Slip Effect was set to 0% - not sure if this is the default but I had never even looked into these settings so I guess it's the case. After a few adjustments everything now feels much better and I have a better understanding of the car physics.

Story over, now let's go over the consequences.

With more laps under my belt this track has earned a spot as one of my favorites, without a shadow of a doubt.
But that understeer with the Abarth was really getting under my nerves, to the point I started using the handbrake on the sharper turns.

And then I've decided to give the Mazda a try...
With the experience I've gained in the last weeks, plus the new force feedback settings I am finally able to enjoy driving it and keep it (mostly) under control. The Slip Effect especially made a huge difference because now I can feel the wheels spinning before completely losing traction and react to it before spinning out of control.
And oh boy! It brought the fun to 200%!!!
I'm not faster in the Mazda, not yet at least, but allowing me to keep the speed higher through the corners makes me happy.
Don't get me wrong: I still prefer the FWD experience, but this track + car combo... I'm switching teams!

Oh and a warning: I hate the Mazda cockpit, could never find a camera position that felt good and would not have something obstructed, but after some experimentation I've settled with setting it on the hood. I'm still getting used to it so it might reduce slightly my situational awareness. Gave it a try with AI and it felt ok, but with humans it's always different.

TL;DR

For the rookies: don't be like me and check your Force Feedback settings, they make a HUUUGE difference.
I'm switching to the Mazda, and I'm still getting used to the new camera setting so my situational awareness this race may be lower than expected.

HF2000 · Apr 15, 2023

RS242 said:
Story time:

In the last weeks I've putting in some driving in DiRT Rally 2.0 and one of the things that felt quite different when comparing to Assetto Corsa was the info I was gaining through force feedback. I was able to get a much better feeling of both the pavement and the car handling.
Not only that I was actually able to control RWD cars, which has always been problematic for me.

So this afternoon I've decided to have a look into the AC Force Feedback settings and lo and behold it was a mess! It was too strong, so it was filtering out a ton of things, and worst of all the Slip Effect was set to 0% - not sure if this is the default but I had never even looked into these settings so I guess it's the case. After a few adjustments everything now feels much better and I have a better understanding of the car physics.

Story over, now let's go over the consequences.

With more laps under my belt this track has earned a spot as one of my favorites, without a shadow of a doubt.
But that understeer with the Abarth was really getting under my nerves, to the point I started using the handbrake on the sharper turns.

And then I've decided to give the Mazda a try...
With the experience I've gained in the last weeks, plus the new force feedback settings I am finally able to enjoy driving it and keep it (mostly) under control. The Slip Effect especially made a huge difference because now I can feel the wheels spinning before completely losing traction and react to it before spinning out of control.
And oh boy! It brought the fun to 200%!!!
I'm not faster in the Mazda, not yet at least, but allowing me to keep the speed higher through the corners makes me happy.
Don't get me wrong: I still prefer the FWD experience, but this track + car combo... I'm switching teams!

Oh and a warning: I hate the Mazda cockpit, could never find a camera position that felt good and would not have something obstructed, but after some experimentation I've settled with setting it on the hood. I'm still getting used to it so it might reduce slightly my situational awareness. Gave it a try with AI and it felt ok, but with humans it's always different.

TL;DR

For the rookies: don't be like me and check your Force Feedback settings, they make a HUUUGE difference.

I'm switching to the Mazda, and I'm still getting used to the new camera setting so my situational awareness this race may be lower than expected.

Do you want to share your ffb settings?

RS242 · Apr 15, 2023

HF2000 said:
Do you want to share your ffb settings?

I'm using this at the moment:

I had lowered the FFB to 80 while in the Abarth but now I see it back to 100, maybe those settings are per car? Not sure.
These are probably not optimized, but simply adjusting a few slides up and down to my preference already made a big deal to me.

I've also used the Pedals app (default) to check the FFB range. It's the right-most bar. If it goes all the way to the top and becomes red then info is being filtered.

My wheel is a Logitech G923 by the way. Not really the best when it comes to FFB but hey, you have to start somewhere.

HF2000 · Apr 16, 2023

RS242 said:
I'm using this at the moment:
View attachment 655742

I had lowered the FFB to 80 while in the Abarth but now I see it back to 100, maybe those settings are per car? Not sure.
These are probably not optimized, but simply adjusting a few slides up and down to my preference already made a big deal to me.

I've also used the Pedals app (default) to check the FFB range. It's the right-most bar. If it goes all the way to the top and becomes red then info is being filtered.
View attachment 655745

My wheel is a Logitech G923 by the way. Not really the best when it comes to FFB but hey, you have to start somewhere.

Yes you can save it for each car indiviually.

Dzul · Apr 16, 2023

Just registered... seems you are the only Abarth Han @HF2000 ...

...from what I saw under the tab 'Entrants' at least, so far.

HF2000 · Apr 16, 2023

HF2000 said:
Yes you can save it for each car indiviually.

RS242 said:
I'm using this at the moment:
View attachment 655742

I had lowered the FFB to 80 while in the Abarth but now I see it back to 100, maybe those settings are per car? Not sure.
These are probably not optimized, but simply adjusting a few slides up and down to my preference already made a big deal to me.

I've also used the Pedals app (default) to check the FFB range. It's the right-most bar. If it goes all the way to the top and becomes red then info is being filtered.
View attachment 655745

My wheel is a Logitech G923 by the way. Not really the best when it comes to FFB but hey, you have to start somewhere.

Sorry, but if you're using ContentManager saving in AC works only for the FFb strength. For the other things you have to change the settings for force feedback in Content Manager

HF2000 · Apr 16, 2023

Dzul said:
Just registered... seems you are the only Abarth Han @HF2000 ... ...from what I saw under the tab 'Entrants' at least, so far.

Yes but I trust that some regular Abarth drivers will turn up. If not, I'll switch to the Mazda.

RS242 · Apr 16, 2023

HF2000 said:
Sorry, but if you're using ContentManager saving in AC works only for the FFb strength. For the other things you have to change the settings for force feedback in Content Manager

I did it all through AC only and Content Manager does reflect my changes.
I did not change anything in this menu and it is showing me the same values as AC.

At least for me is working fine.
CM version: 0.8.2393.39063 (x86)

dbx71 · Apr 16, 2023

RS242 said:
I did it all through AC only and Content Manager does reflect my changes.
I did not change anything in this menu and it is showing me the same values as AC.
View attachment 655859
At least for me is working fine.
CM version: 0.8.2393.39063 (x86)

Hey RS242;
Glad to hear you're getting things dialed in. Yes, I also found that getting the FFB settings to where you are comfortable with the feel was key to boosting the fun factor for AC. I have a G920 myself and went through similar experience.

I ended up with the same slip effects (25%), but I reduced Road Effects to 5% because I wasn't crazy about all the chatter / vibrations in the wheel on high speed straights. I found these effects to be somewhat noisy and annoying.

In case you're interested, the settings I ended up with are:

Love the way the cars feel now. Yes, the G920 and 923 might be considered entry level, but I'm generally pretty happy with mine.

See you on the track!
d

HF2000 · Apr 16, 2023

RS242 said:
I did it all through AC only and Content Manager does reflect my changes.
I did not change anything in this menu and it is showing me the same values as AC.
View attachment 655859
At least for me is working fine.
CM version: 0.8.2393.39063 (x86)

Ok. That's nice and also strange why that didn't work for me. But it's OK now.

RS242 · Apr 16, 2023

dbx71 said:
Hey RS242;
Glad to hear you're getting things dialed in. Yes, I also found that getting the FFB settings to where you are comfortable with the feel was key to boosting the fun factor for AC. I have a G920 myself and went through similar experience.

I ended up with the same slip effects (25%), but I reduced Road Effects to 5% because I wasn't crazy about all the chatter / vibrations in the wheel on high speed straights. I found these effects to be somewhat noisy and annoying.

In case you're interested, the settings I ended up with are:

View attachment 655954

Love the way the cars feel now. Yes, the G920 and 923 might be considered entry level, but I'm generally pretty happy with mine.

See you on the track!
d

Thank you for sharing Dominic.
Funny we ended up going through the same process and with the same value for the Slip effect.
I don't really feel that much vibration on the straights, maybe it's the track.
I'll keep it in mind for future races.

HF2000 said:
Ok. That's nice and also strange why that didn't work for me. But it's OK now.

Could it be a CM version difference?

Whiskas44 · Apr 17, 2023

Hi, after participating in a rookie event two weeks ago I just got premium and would like to register for this race too. How do I get the Emperor account?

HF2000 · Apr 17, 2023

Whiskas44 said:
Hi, after participating in a rookie event two weeks ago I just got premium and would like to register for this race too. How do I get the Emperor account?

That's great, Jonas! Welcome! I will send you a PM with the necessary information!